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KRMG Series - "What's in your Gas?"
Many Tulsans have taken notice of a change in their fuel economy in recent months.
Of course, many different factors can impact fuel economy - air pressure in tires, temperature of the fuel, driving habits, etc.
But an indisputable difference in the fuel efficiency in your car or truck is the introduction of corn-based ethanol in your gasoline.
Nearly all Tulsa-area gas retailers are now pumping so-called E10 fuel - that is a mixture of 90-percent traditional gasoline and 10-percent corn-based ethanol.
The math is pretty clear that you're now spending more money on less energy:
One gallon gas = 115,000 BTU
One gallon ethanol = 76,000 BTU
One gallon E10 = 111,100 BTU
(A BTU is British Thermal Unit - it's a measure of energy content)
The difference between the BTUs of pure gasoline and the E10 is about 3.4-percent. That means that you're getting about 3.4-percent less efficiency with the use of E10.
If E10 proves to reduce fuel economy, why do we use it?
In Part I of our series "What's in your Gas?" we talk with QuikTrip's Mike Thornbrugh and learn why QT, and nearly every other gas retailer in Green Country, pumps E10.
In Part II of our series, we explore whether or not retailers should be compelled by law to label the fuel ingredients so that you will know what you're pumping into your car when you fill up.
Have you noticed a decrease in your fuel efficiency?
Should all retail gas pumps be labeled with fuel content?
What others are saying
- Who's making the $ from ethanol?Archer, Daniels, Midland (ADM) started lobbying for big tax breaks years ago, in order to allow it to make bigger profits off of its corporate corn farms in Iowa.
Congress obliged several years back, so now, we're not only getting worse mileage and harming our engines in the process, our produce here and overseas has become scarcer and more expensive.
Follow the money seems to hold true in the case of ethanol too. - Real Gas in CowetaThe Phillips Station on the North side of Coweta on Highway 51 is selling real gas. I ran an experiment with my Dogde Ram and mpg went from 16 with E10 from QT to 20 with real Gas from Phillips. Do what you want but I won't be buying any more E10.
- Whats In Your GasWhat ever happened to those Debora Wedel who did specal reports?
- ethanolJust a comment on part one of the series. Mike Thornbrugh states that a loss of 3-4% of MPG is the result of using E10, versus 100% regular gasoline. I think they are trying to play this down, because the percentage is more like 15%.
I did an experiment this week, and did an MPG check on my 2005 Toyota Tacoma, which I maintain regularly, myself. I just filled up this morning, and the MPG was 17.045. When I first got the truck in 2005, I did an MPG check once in a while, just to make sure everything was working correctly, and averaged about 19.7 to 20.1 MPG. I am assuming that gas back in 2005 was not E10, otherwise, there may be something else amiss. Based on my calculations, I'm seeing more like a 13-15% loss in fuel economy, which in my vehicle, equates to about a loss of 54 miles that I used to be able to travel on a tank of gas, or roughly, 2.7 gallons of gas.
So, I guess I'll be driving by Shell to try out a tank of 100% gas the next time I fill up, and verify the results, and hopefully, some cost savings.
Just thought I'd pass this information along.
By the way, thanks for the wonderful shows in the morning! - EPA published gas mileage numbers - real gas onlyIf you are shopping for a new car, remember those EPA mileage numbers are for "real gas" only.
Side note to Joe: Those Honda's you advertise with 30+ mpg. How many still do 30+ mpg on E10? - Real Gas In South Broken ArrowJim's One Stop has Nothing But real Gas at 8221 S. Elm Place Right next to Indian Springs Country Club.
- E10Many experimental and some certified airplanes burn 91 octane mo-gas (automotive fuel). Ethanol is lethal to many airplane components -- specifically many fuel pumps, fuel tanks (bladders), fuel lines, and carburetor components. Ethanol can also cause eroneous readings in aircraft fuel gauges. Even though 91 octane is required, is there any guarantee that ethanol is not also being used in higher octane fuels? Could the recent aircraft engine failures of a couple of experimental airplanes in the Green Country area be linked to ethanol? Makes you wonder.
- E10Joe, thanks for joining the 'crusade'. The more media we can get exposing what others (ah hem...QT!) are not openly disclosing, the better!
Gary - nice math, buddy!!
Rip off after rip off!
Guess which President of the US Senate broke a 1994 tie vote which led to the requirement that Ethanol be added to our gas?? I'd give you a hint...but that might be "Inconvenient".
Google it and see for yourself. - fuelE10 is just the beginning. Next, these global warming nutjobs will require E25, then E50, etc.
Where will it all end?! - tulsa gasThis sucks that we have to drive extra miles to get real gas. With prices as high as they are, I can't justify driving all across town looking for real gas...
- Where's the Savings?I took your info and made some calculations. If gas is $3.399/gal, then one percent of that is 3.399 cents. If (as per the BTU estimates you provided)E10 reduces my mpg by 3.4%, multiply this by 3.399 cents and you get 11.5566 cents per gallon less efficiency. Both Quick Trip in Tulsa(per your interview) and On Cue in Stillwater (per my interview) say that if they weren't selling E10, then prices would be 5 cents more. Take this from the 11.5566 cents per gallon lower efficency and someone is making 6.5566 cents per gallon every time we go to the pump. That's over $1.30 on 20 gallons. The higher gas prices are, the higher this number goes. The bottom line is--I think somebody owes me some money!
- EthanolDo the higher grades of of gas contain E10?
- Thanks!Hey Joe - you and the gang in the morning have been doing a really great job lately! Thanks for uncovering this - and for sharing with us the info on the illegal immigrants drivers license issue. Keep up the good work - you're fast becoming a crusader!
- Real Gas on 31st just east of HarvardSaw on their sign last week that they had real gas.
- Ethanol eats fuel systemsAlthough some newer vehicles may be fine running this stuff, your lawn care equipment is in danger. The fuel systems on both my mower and my string trimmer were disolved (the hoses and gaskets broke down) when QT did the switcharoo on us last year.
- Real GasYou can buy real gas at Jim's Sinclair. One block east of Pine and Sheridan on Pine.............
- Ethanol in Fuel.I heard of this months ago, but could not find any credible reference to it. I am all for capitalism, and the free market, but this practice (if in fact true) smacks of shady business practice. This explains why I keep seeing some smaller stations with marquis indicating zero ethanol in their fuel.
- E10I thought it was just QT that served E10.
Where can I go to get just gas????? - gasI had no idea that i was buying another other than just gas. where can i buy just gas???
- ethanolthey're taking the food for our plates and putting it in our gas tanks - no wonder there are food shortages everywhere...
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